A - Continue as is
B - Shut the server down til 3.16
First off, let me say on behalf of the staff here at Crash 'n' Burn we feel your frustrations with the current problem with cheaters and innocent players being banned. We apologize for any inconvenience this causes regards to being unfairly banned and possibly not getting a timely response on your ban appeal etc.
That said, I had a quick talk with Michael and since he has no time currently to develop CnB himself and Renegade is also in school and has other commitments it looks like for the foreseeable future CnB development is indefinitely on hold.
Michael mentioned two options we have at this point; we can either continue as is and possibly let innocent people fall through the cracks and stay banned or we can shut down the server til development can continue. Neither option I like personally but that seems to be where we are at right now. I see your appeals and your msgs on IRC and I feel bad that you are getting unfairly banned from a server you like so much but I am currently the only one doing this and I try my best to check them a few times a day so if the vote comes back to continue as things are now, please try to be patient with the appeals and such.
If you have donated to keep CnB running, we thank you for your support. Now, no promises or anything but in the event of a shutdown til 3.16 when we get back up and running your Server Supporter status might be able to get reinstated for the time you would have normally had. That will likely be up to Michael but I am fairly sure he will agree. Again, though, NOT PROMISING anything. We will have to wait and see.
So the vote is up to you.
Which will it be ... A or B ?
p.s. If you are unable to post in this section I am sorry I have missed you and just make a quick post in the New Members section and I will try to get your forum access upgraded ASAP.
p.p.s. Forums and IRC will remain as they are either way. So you can all come on and chat and such with people.
I think it's best to shut it down until it's all resolved.
CnB can lose members and dealing with those hackers and evaders is very annoying sometimes.
I know that there's no fun when you can't play on a server but for the sake of members, new or not, it's the best thing to do.
B - Shut the server down til 3.16 :)
A, only with temporary quick-patch (if possible) for idea that is also referred to in staff forums (gonna remind it in there). that SHOULD help to improve the situation at least a little bit til 3.16
small addition- the idea i have in mind would drastically decrease unban times, but sadly it wouldnt solve hacker problem. Still i think this idea would improve situation enough to make nuisance as small as possible
Shutting it down is the best option.
no matter how long it takes until the newer version is out. it is too much for the staff to look at the banlist. ecause i bet there were like 30 person banned per day.
I also think shutting it down is best option at the current situations we are in now, so many people are getting banned now and if developing the server and stuff is going to be slowed down then its just going to be worse when hackers come online, shutting it down until 3.16 is the safest option and of course as someone mentioned earlier it will ruin the image of the server, people will lose interest on this server if there are many hackers and since 3.16 will be able to stop this and since 3.16 is delayed, I am guessing it is best to shut it down or something like that until cnb has been updated to 3.16.
So, because people are occasionally briefly unable to play because they get wrongly banned...
...the solution is to shut down the server so that everyone is unable to play?
Just a thought.
Unfortunately i would have to say that B is the best option. As i was one of the people who was wrongly banned but luckily enough i was unbanned. Shut down the server until 3.16 unless CnB will lose members and the server will become unpopular. Option B is the best option.
Indefinitely describes something that is done or that will go on for an undetermined period of time.
If you choose B then you could be choosing not to play cnb until Michael and Renegade graduate :lol:
Renegade makes a good point. But is anyone actually having fun on CnB at the moment? I can't really comment on how it is in game right now (and I won't be able to for a while), but it certainly doesn't look great from the outside. I'd like to know. I'm unsure on the topic. We did registered only a while back, might that be an option? I'm majorly out of the loop here, I need to talk to michael. If anyone sees him point him in my direction.
Well even with registered only all the cheaters have to do is register and its the same issue again. If I remember right, that didnt really slow down the problem which is why it was aborted and went back to normal.
I had brought up another idea to Michael but I guess he doesnt really want to do that either. The idea was to make B E and F kick people instead of ban them then leave it to mods to do the banning.
I'd have put this as option C but That didnt seem to be an option at the time.
For the record, I dont want to shut CnB down even for a short time, but we have to weigh the level of fun vs frustration of wrong people being banned while the real culprits pretty much go unpunished.
A:Because...if people are getting banned unfairly and not unbanned then shutting down the server will just make everyone not able to play...Wouldent it be better to have say(just numbers idk the realones) 50 ppl not able to play insted of ALL of CnB? Thanks and im Hoping that the server doesent get closed For any ammount of time!
registered-only would actually help a lot, because i do think that while there are few those players, who would still register and hack, i dont think majority of hackers would. Besides, it would be much easier to ban hackers like this, because in registered-only case, all they have to do is report
Password protect the server and have it so if u want to play the server u need to enter irc and get the password from admin.
Option B - 100%
Close the server for a while, and plz do it ASAP.
I vote for option B for shutting down. because it is too much. Hax community is growing fast like bacterias and here is no stopping until an AC with memory protection comes. im fine with waiting.
Because the community.of hacking is.growing fast. it s easy to find multiple hax and all u devs need is to develope a memory protection system to disable players who have cleo or sobeit installed. also modified fie checks about modified handlings weapons etc.
I forgot to vote. it s option b
Ok seeing as the forum permissions for this section werent allowing people to see other peoples posts in here. I am gonna post screenshots of everyones posts up to this point. Id quote them but apparently I cant quote unapproved posts. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF After this point there should be no issue with seeing new posts though.
This was the thread in General made as a result of this permissions oversight. That thread will be gone by now though so please post opinions here instead.
password protect the server and give the password in pass in IRC -by request- ONLY.. keeping record of who has the password would also be good.. Allow only members with the password to play until 3.16 comes out.. When the password losses its secrecy because it will eventually.. CHANGE IT and keep it going until it needs changing again.